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Jared Brenner's avatar

I’m afraid I’m a fully-retired optimist. With 47% of the people still supporting him, it would take an economic collapse for them to maybe turn on him. And even then they’d still go for another Trump to turn things around, it would just be a Trump without tariffs. They would probably blame marginalized people and government spending even more.

Sorry to be such a downer but it’s a rainy Monday after a weekend when the administration laughed at a court order and very few seem to care.

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Lisa's avatar

I'm pretty sure that NBC "poll" didn't ask the folks who were fired for no reason and no warning, or the parents of a child battling cancer who is on Medicaid, or the farmers, or the Veterans who are losing access to healthcare, or those living on Social Security, ok you get it. And I gotta stop because the more I find examples, I feel my blood pressure rise.

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MARY's avatar

I suspect the majority of his supporters are economically vulnerable. Once unemployed and/or cut off from Federal benefits, they will quickly be under water and feeling the pain. They really thought this would somehow only hurt those they dislike. Not them and theirs. They don't have enough wealth, or connections and proximity to wealth to avoid serious personal destabilization as the wrecking ball proceeds

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Alex Dash's avatar

It's the willful blindness that I find the most difficult to comprehend. A family member that I've been reaching out to, hoping to help her see the destruction trump is causing, said that trump kept all of his campaign promises. He promised Elon, RFK, deportation, tariffs, and that he closed the southern border. In her view, he's kept his promises. How do you respond to that?

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Catt woman's avatar

Well she’s apparently just fine with no government support for anything, no vaccines, higher prices, human suffering, and government officials who are above the law. Save your breath. She won’t hear you unless maybe her town is hit by a tornado no one knew was coming and FEMA isn’t there to pick up the pieces, or her grandchild dies from measles or is crippled by polio, or heaven forbid her Social Security check doesn’t arrive, or her rural hospital/health clinic closes because of Medicare/Medicaid cuts. She currently feels safe in her sheltered little world and as long as hell is affecting only “others” and not her, she’ll continue to wear the blindfold. She’s beyond your help.

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Susan Williams's avatar

Well spoken.

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L Turner's avatar

I say make her own it - make her own every last bit of it. Trump is doing the vile things that he promised but it’s not a problem for her bc she thinks she hasn’t been negatively affected. She will think everything is just peachy until she herself or one of her friends, or an institution that she holds dear, are negatively affected by these promises and that’s when you make her own it. Your friend lost her job due to Elon’s “doggie” cuts? Make her own it - she voted for him, she must have wanted it this way. Her friend the veteran, who despite serving his or her country in a way that Trump never did, finds that veterans’ services and pensions have been slashed? Make her own it - she voted for him, she must have wanted it this way. Her medical care has been cut back? Make her own it - she voted for him, she must have wanted it this way. Public services in her neighborhood slashed or cut back causing difficulties and disruptions? Make her own it - she voted for him, she must have wanted it this way.

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Jared Brenner's avatar

Whatever you do, if she offers you some Kool-Aid, don’t drink it.

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Lisa's avatar

Welp, why don't you make a promise to her to put up boundaries of communication and when she says, "Why aren't you talking to me", you can say "Well you seem to take promises very seriously and I wanted to keep my promise to you."

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Eric Lin Doub's avatar

No, 47% of the people do not support him. That was the percentage of those who voted in November. Some 65 million people who are already registered to vote did not.

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Lynn Glendinning's avatar

Yep. And, if we make it to the mid-terms and are still able to vote, let's hope they will and encourage them to join the 49%.

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L Turner's avatar

Maybe that economic collapse will happen sooner than expected due to Trump’s know-nothing, ham-handed approach to tariffs.

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Mark Carpenter's avatar

It's going to take more than just voting.

When those in power, and who are abusing that power, see that the rest of us are REALLY pissed off AND WE'RE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT, in very tangible ways (like massive demonstrations of hundreds of thousands of people, as occurred in Belgrade, Serbia last week) -- those people in power may hunker down, but just like Nicolae Ceaușescu and Marshal Tito, they will eventually be overthrown.

The lessons of the 1989-1991 revolution where Eastern European dictatorships were overthrown apply to us, too.

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Dawna Stromsoe's avatar

What we each can do is hit those individuals and corporations in the pocketbook, hit them financially where it matters most to them. No teslas, Walmart, Target, Publix etc. That will get their attention.

Rants on social media feed the egos of media whores. I intentionally don’t use their names for the same reason. And I’m still pissed at the millions of people who were too lazy to vote last November.

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MARY's avatar

Agree. They've successfully neutralized the power of our votes. Consumer spending is 68% of GDP and voting with our wallets via boycotts is now our most powerful voice.

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Lisa's avatar

Bullies all share a common personality defect, cowardness. When we stand up, they will eventually fold, and in the mean time we give them some anxiety and worry and tension on the daily, just like we've been experiencing for the last decade. I'm done playing nice as well.

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Lynn Glendinning's avatar

And Trump has already shown he will...

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Ingrid's avatar

Absolutely!

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Maria K.'s avatar

I think one of my biggest stumbling blocks is - what the heck do we do about tens of millions of people who think this is ok? Who think this is exactly how this country should be? We already know there is no reasoning with them. It doesn't matter how much information you throw at them - they don't care. Even if the tide of power turns (somehow) - they will STILL BE THERE. Waiting for a new despicable leader to take up their despicable cause. What do we do about them?

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Christina Johnson's avatar

Exactly. I have one of “them” in my family. He’s thrilled that all of his wishes are coming true, that his FoxNoise people are in charge.

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Maria K.'s avatar

You are definitely not alone. I've got some too.... Fortunately, when those particular bozos turned on me because of Ukraine (I am a first-generation Ukrainian American and have been creating daily news summaries about the war in Ukraine since it began 3 years ago), the family rallied around me. But these people are there. If an order went out for ICE to start picking up naturalized citizens who oppose Trump, they will turn me in. How the heck do we live with that?

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Lisa's avatar

I work with a Ukrainian student studying Physio/Kinesiology at a chocolate shop during the Christmas holiday. We love her and her smile and personality and we will protect her at any cost. Also, our local dry cleaning establishment is Ukranian owned and we will barricade ICE from them. There are many who are in the know and we are going to fight not only for them but for ourselves to keep our country the melting pot of amazing that it was always meant to be. Stay tough Maria.

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Lisa's avatar

You are so right. foxxy noiz has the headlines of "trump deported 250 killer gang members to Venezuela!" Yay! And they can't help but think he's god's gift to Merica. They will never know the actual stories/truth because they are brainwashed.

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L Turner's avatar

Yesterday the white house press secretary said the judge’s ruling on The Enemy Aliens Act had “no lawful basis”, and therefore, she said, this means the administration did not refuse to comply. This is double-speak and obfuscation at their finest. It’s the legal equivalent of a toddler closing his eyes and thinking things he can’t see are invisible. But where this might be endearing when done by children, it’s horrifying when done by this inept, despicable and destructive administration. I have long suspected that Trump had zero respect for the law and this cements it for everyone to see. Having said that, not everyone cares - his supporters certainly don’t care.

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Alex Dash's avatar

The press secretary is a bobble head reading what's in front of her. She can't appropriately respond to journalists questions. She spouts one lie after the next.

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Catt woman's avatar

And because she’s wearing that big shiny cross, the MAGAts believe every lie that passes her forked tongue.

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L Turner's avatar

I wonder if she has any internal arguments with herself when she’s saying what she says with a straight face. Could she possibly be as vapid as she seems?

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Alex Dash's avatar

She is likely every bit as vapid as she appears. It's an epidemic within the maga cult.

I can't think of any women that I know of who would wear a t-shirt that indicated it was okay for a politician to touch their breasts or their privates.

Yet, after the Access Hollywood interview went public, where trump bragged that he could "Grab' 'em by the pu**y," women in his maga cult showed up at his rallies wearing t-shirts, "Trump Can Grab My Pussy." That is beyond sick and disgusting. Nothing they say or do surprises me.

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L Turner's avatar

I had forgotten about those t-shirts. Absolutely I’ve seen other equally appalling slogans on t-shirts of women at his rallies. How about a shirt that has an arrow that points down that says “trump’s b***r garage”? And forgive me for writing that. Who would step out of their house wearing such a shirt, let alone walk around wearing that? It has to be a person who has subsumed their whole self-worth to a despicable, gibbering, anti-American-values, mad-man.

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Ingrid's avatar

The administration itself is acting like that toddler, as witness denial of vaccine use and the actions of the new so-called EPA Administrator.

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MaryBeth Ingram's avatar

Who among your readers would disagree? What’s missing is the how. We are all looking for the how which is why we go to the one day protests, why we post on Facebook. We’re looking for the movement and until it coalesces, we will keep doing what we can and that’s what we can do.

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Emma Hunter's avatar

On Saturday I participated in my first protest since moving to ruby red Utah.

My favorite chant - the one that stirred my heart - “THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!” Over and over and over.

There was only one disruptor and our small city police sent him on his way for impededing a lawful protest.

Hundreds of car horns beeped support, thumbs up, rooled down windows shouting support, and even more people were recording us and likely posting on social media. A wonderful experience because i was finally doing something!

One concern: A majority of us were over 60.

I’m 67. I choose to be a fierce defender of our Constitution. I will not be silent while oligarchs thru illegal means and lies strip our rights, our freedoms, our heritage, and literally right before our eyes loot the Treasury and piss on the Rule of Law.

Their lawlessness and defiling of treaties and abandoning our allies around the globe makes us incredibly vulnerable, weak, and despised.

Our tax dollars are bring diverted to a inflate a fake unstable King, his sycophants, and their Masters—the endlessly voracious Oligarchs and Putin.

This is your Now and your future at stake. Fight for it! Grow a pair. Quit bitching, start pitching in!

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Tee Ree's avatar

It’s definitely a revolution of the olds. I’m old (your age) so no shade. I’m hoping that when school is out the youngs join in but who knows with all the right wing and Russian propaganda on TikTok. We’ll just have to keep on doing what we can do to change hearts and minds.

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Paul's avatar

I agree with what you are saying. I used to wake up and I would embrace the day, "new day", "new opportunities", now I wake up afraid. I don't like this feeling. But, I also think that Trump is unhinged and not focused and that leads to incompetence!! I think people are waking up now and realizing what a psychopath he is!! I also see the democrats doing a very smart thing by going to red districts and getting huge crowds!! As much as I think things are bad and could get worse, I am not certain that everyone is going to fall in line?? No one is going to go along with troops on the ground especially if we try to invade a sovereign nation like Canada, Greenland, or Mexico and maybe not even the Ukraine. And I also find it hard to believe that everyone in stock market is going to go along with losing billions of dollars, the very wealthy won't care, because they are bottom feeders and will try clean up, but not everyone on Wall street is going to be happy if the market tanks, neither will their customers. And what about Tesla, I don't think the Tesla board of directors is going to put up with Musk, if they keep losing money. I don't know all of this for a fact, but I would completely write-off what is going on, but because anything could happen. People keep writing off the democrats, but that would be a mistake because there are a lot of smart democrats and there are more of us then there are of them!! And even the cult members are fickle, if these policies start of impact them in a negative way, you will see his approval rating drop!!

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I will just admit I’m super depressed. I’m still furious that during the four years Biden was president the Democratic party didn’t bring one of their younger, energetic, positive, talented people along and prepare to be president. No they sat on their thumbs and just planned to use Biden again. I love President Biden but it doesn’t take a brainiac to know that was the laziest most ridiculous thing in the world because of his age. And THEN, THEN, three freak’n months before the election, THEN we decide we HAVE to put another candidate in place. And I LOVED Kamala and Tim but it was too little and WAY too late. And against the MAGA insanity anyone should know a WOMAN of COLOR wasn’t going to fly with them. Perhaps if we’d had MORE TIME. I myself am an Independent. Guess why? But I supported the Democrats 100%. But it’s been an absolute disaster. And now, after more then enough time to see the danger America is in, Schumer chose to do this. Yet another OLD WHITE man who apparently can’t listen to reason, can’t be educated and can’t even be loyal to his own party and all the people out here working our asses off to support them. Want to know why we have a massive amount of young people who don’t vote? Because they believe not only their vote but also their energy, support, and work makes no difference either. One very stupid man and a handful of Democrat sellouts hand our country and our quality of life to regime and a party who are all insane. Yes, the entire system is screwed up. We can’t even trust the people WE elected to do their job. I’m trying to find some resilience and a reason to even try anymore. But this morning I’m just devastated and depressed.

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MARY's avatar

Ouch !

Been screaming my head off since 2016 re danger of, then impending, and now defacto Fascism.

Time to up my game to include protests. Time to piss off my Idaho neighbors by flying a Ukranian flag. Time to do MORE

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Dano Pierce's avatar

Like you I am battle weary. I need to somehow recharge and the routines and rituals that I used to execute to heal and come back are not working like they used to. I have had a series of medical issues and mishaps that have complicated things. I hear you loud and clear. I have lost faith in our leadership and the general decency of humanity. I know there are still good people out there but like me I sense they are tired too. I feel we need to get really pissed off and stage a revolution but not in the violent sense. I'd like to see young and old out in the streets, grannies and younger folk, grandpas and everyone in between saying we have had enough. I remember the 60s and the civil rights movement, the AIDS Crisis, the Vietnam war. There is always something to fight or and the powers at the top always seem to try to crush that fight. I am tired like you but I still have a lot of love in my heart and forgiveness. I don't even know how to talk to MAGA Folk anymore. I am sick of the poison and me and others who have voiced our protest are labeled as villains, communists,. marxists, evil, satanic, pedophiles, demonic, enemies of God and a list of other villainous slanders. I am just one guy with a few songs and kindness as fuel. The tank is getting low. Some days I just want to walk out in the forest and get lost. I understand that I need to stay and in my own feeble way, resist. I confess I am frightened at times and scared. As a queer person, like many others I am considered the enemy, part of the godless horde. My partner and I go to great church, belong to a book study group and volunteer. We do not have some kind of agenda except to weather these insane times and be as kind and empathetic as we can. All this is a challenge we were not totally ready for though I have warned folks for years about all this. They kept telling me it that it will all be fine and OK. Like you I am not so sure now. We are both in our 70s and feel too old for this battle but we got to find some courage and pray for wisdom. Maybe our revolution is about small gestures and collective organization. I don't know. I hope that love wins.

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J Glaspie's avatar

I am tired, too, and feel as you do, but your words give me a measure of strength. So, thank you.

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Dano Pierce's avatar

Hang in there bro!

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Woods Rita's avatar

Hopefully soon MAGA will be as angry as we are and wake up and see his ways!

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Ingrid's avatar

Hopefully. However, it is very difficult to change the mind of someone who has been totally taken in by a cult, and the leaders of that cult continue their distorted disinformation about who is causing the problems.

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L Turner's avatar

I firmly believe that maga folks won’t open their eyes and see the light until they themselves become adversely affected by Trumps stupidity. Right now, when only people they don’t like are being harmed they don’t care. And that is the definition of social irresponsibility.

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Christina Johnson's avatar

If only…that wish will be as a feather in the wind.

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Christina Johnson's avatar

Thank you. I do so wish it were able to be accomplished. I presently live in a blue state. I was, however, living on and off in 2 red states in the 70s and in the 20 aughts. It was a real eye opener how very little thought, kindness or compassion there ever was for the “other.” I don’t have much hope.

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Lisa's avatar

It's interesting that the blue states seem to have the commonality of empathy and compassion whilst the reds states are angry and vindictive with a victim mentality. Seems like you turn into what you're surrounded by.

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Christina Johnson's avatar

Thankfully, I never did. I was so turned off by the rhetoric.

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Andrea's avatar

Humans seem to be geared towards..what can money do? Every knocking my head against a wall trying to pass on truthful information, gets swallowed up by the great concern of their money. A cap on campaign fund raising should be one of the first things we do, if ever a legislative majority returns. The other reason, deeply seeded, but surfaces if you listen carefully, people are truly pissed off that their tax dollars are paying the salary of our elected members of the house and senate, and that they are not doing their jobs. We need to hold oath taking elected officials accountable if they don’t do what they promised to do on the campaign trail.

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Patty Peek's avatar

Spot on.

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Leigh Horne's avatar

Amen, Prophet John. Now, print the t-shirts and pass them out, along with concrete suggestions for everyday, everyway resistance.

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Susan Theriault's avatar

Thank you John

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